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Posted By GlitterBerri at 03:10 AM on Friday December 23rd, 2011
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There are so many problems with this timeline. Even if Link being defeated by Ganon could in any way cause a timeline split (which it can’t) then there are no hints in any of the games about the imprisoning war. It fits, but it would be just like if I said that between TP and FSA the new continent from the adult timeline was discovered and everyone moved there, which explains the wandering geography. It doesn’t contradict anything, but there’s nothing in any game to substantiate it. On the other hand, FSA is implied in-game to be the direct sequel to FS and the ending is the exact same as ALttP’s backstory.
No, it isn’t. In FSA Ganondorf becomes Ganon through the Trident (and not through the Triforce), and is sealed in the Four Sword (and not in the Sacred Realm)
WARNING: THIS COMMENT CONTAINS SKYWARD SWORD SPOILERS
listen guys. this timeline is inncorrect because skyward sword is a prequel to oot and oot is like 3 games ahead. demise turns into gannorf
thats not exactly correct! Demise doesn’t turn into Ganon, its more like that he curses both Zelda and Link. because his own hatred for the gods was to great to just vanish with his death. so its more like that his hatred ends up with Ganon, THe spirit of the Hero with Link and the Goddes Hylia Reborn as Zelda, creating kinda an NEVER-ENDING-CIRCLE o.o
The whole Link failuring doesn’t mean he died or Ganon defeated him directly. I think these are the best explanations of what happened:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umS4flaa-20
http://i.imgur.com/NRpQO.png
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Good job.
For improvements, I think you should at least make it clear that there are two omitted gaps in this timeline:
1) between Age of Sky and Age of Chaos
2) between execution of Ganondorf and Age of Twilight
These are probably spaces reserved for future elaborations. The second gap is especially important, since this may be the era of Interloper War.
Personally, I’d also translate it as “Tragedy of the first Princess Zelda”, since the original text was not “Zelda I”.
“The Wind Waker & A New World” should be “Hero of Wind & a New World”, but this is obvious. :-)
You’re right, I should have included the omitted gaps, and “The Wind Waker & A New World” should be “The Hero of Wind & A New World”. :) I did this at 3 am last night, haha. I’ll release an updated version later.
The tragedy of Zelda I isn’t just after SS ??? The Legend told in AoL is THE Legend of Zelda who is the origin of the serie so just after SS … No ?
The tragedy of Zelda I takes place in the time before Adventure of Link, when Zelda I’s younger brother, the King of Hyrule, places a curse upon her to make her sleep for eternity after she refuses to tell him the whereabouts of her piece of the Triforce. This is the Zelda that Link awakens at the end of the game.
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Other than the fact that its actually a THREEFOLD timeline, that’s pretty much what I had guessed. Basically, the third timeline events I kept mixing in with the main one (the child timeline). I figured that Link’s Awakening followed the Oracles (considering the Oracles ending, its probably the same Link in all three games). Also considering its close proximity to LTTP, its also possible that its the same link in all four games.
I also guessed that Zelda I and II were the latest games in the series.
Basically, though, if Link fails to defeat Ganondorf, that results in the Sealing War, ultimately with the sages successfully in defeating Ganondorf and re-sealing him into the Sacred Realm, which is why we keep on hearing about the “Imprisoning War” in LTTP.
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Is that book coming out in english?
Hey, James. :)
Similar books have been released for games by other companies and haven’t seen a North American release, so I have my doubts. But rest assured, there will be a fan translation. And with all the kerfuffle about it, maybe Nintendo will think about releasing it here.
Someone mentioned on another site that the issue with Link “failing” is a bit of a misnomer. They mentioned that the timeline Link originally came from just kept going because he never returned to that one after the Ocarina of Time. When he leaps 7 years into the future he doesn’t go back to that timeline he gets set back further, so there are really to breaks in the timeline. Either way Link “fails” to resolve that timeline’s Ganon.
Source:
http://vgtribune.com/zelda-timeline-revealed/
See the Anonymous comment at the end.
yea I read the same thing. out of all the versions I heard, I like tat one the most. other then link losing in MM, this is the most plausible reason there would be a split “due to link failing to stop ganondorph”.
the only other version I read that’s a spin off of what u said is that in OoT, the sage said that of link fought ganondorph as a child, link would’ve lost. maybe he did fight him as a child and lost, then the sage brought he back to when he first pulled the master sword and instead of letting him fail against ganondorph, he put link to sleep for 7 years in protection, thus causing the first split. because the timeline where ganondorph wins wouldn’t have been erased, and that one leads to the sealing war and aLttP, where the older link leads to the other two timelines, the ones we all know.
*”two” timeline splits, not “to” my bad :P
I’m not too fussy with the timeline. I’m sure whatever doesn’t make sense will get some supporting evidence in the book, and besides, it probably gives them more room to make other games.
As for Link being defeated, the only thing I can surmise from that is Ganondorf taking him on as a child. There was no child/adult split, so it could mean that Ganondorf might’ve killed Link that night when he killed the king. My only basis is the OoT manga (which is non-canon) where Ganondorf mentions that he regretted not killing Link those seven years ago when he was a powerless child. Another one of Glitter’s translations said that he got all three pieces of the Triforce after that, so the act of killing Link might have somehow initiated a transfer of the Triforce of Courage while having the so-called ‘wisdom’ to kill his enemy before he’s a threat might’ve netted him the Triforce of Wisdom.
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well if nintendo says this is true then this is true
I just found out about this about an hour ago… This was a nice christmas present!
this 3rd timeline is pure bs and ninty have just pulled it out of their ass in the last moment to try and explain lttp etc. the 3rd timeline CANNOT exist link goes back in time once and is never killed. there are ONLY 2 timelines the child and the adult. link NEVER DIES!!
Thanks for the translation.
I still want to know how exactly (if there is an explanation in the book), the first split happens. The second one is clear: Zelda uses the Ocarina of Time and send you back in time so that you can warn her about Ganondor in the past, altering the events.
But does the book say when the first split happens? I’m guessing the first time you use the ocarina and grab the Master Sword breaks the time continuity and let the alternate realities happen, but I wish to know how the book deals with this issue, if it does. I hope this information is released soon.
I’m guessing it’s not a split at all, but an entirely separate parallel universe.
All I know is the brief glimpse I got of the timeline page from the YouTube video. I’m looking forward to seeing scans from the entire book as well, but as far as I know, nothing is available yet! As soon as we have the scans, Beno and I will be working hard on translating the entire thing.
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Glitterberri, English-speaking fans will be bowing to you for years. I don’t much like that Ninendo released the timeline but they did and thanks to you, I can read it. Your name will be whispered in the dark corners of (____)-cons and will echo through the halls of the Temple of Time. Keep the Courage.
Haha, I doubt people will be bowing to me or whispering my name in dark corners, but I appreciate the sentiment. Glad you enjoyed it! :)
I’ve been mulling over this whole 3 timelines thing and I must admit that although we had no previous knowledge of the Link lost timeline, doesn’t mean it’s impossible to have happened. It does remind me (I’m going to get nerdy on you for a minute) of Dragonball Z. In DBZ, Trunks is a time traveller who’s travelling causes time splits. The future where he grew up, Goku dies, then he creates a new timeline in the past where Goku’s life is saved. In this new Goku lives timeline, a creature named Cell comes from a 3rd timeline that we never see and becomes the big baddie, so just because we don’t see it, doesn’t mean it isn’t there.
I might be off but that’s just my 2 cents.
That makes sense. My only problem with a third timeline of Link failing is that this is something that should be in consideration in every game. If you beat the game in OoT, you have the two splits, so why is this the only game that takes into account of failure that something else happens? (Yes I am aware that it could be just that in the other lines nothing significant like this happens, but it just looks like all the misc. games that are tied together were shunted aside to make way for new stories they could flourish on without being tied down by the games from the beginning of the industry).
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As I recall when link pulled the master sword out in ocarina of time a sage or whatever told him they held him in that realm for several years until he was old enough. So him actually traveling in time is kinda a stretch. But the thing is how was he able to return as a child? I think Nintendo may have fudged that up and have to figure it out another way.
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First of all I don’t agree with how the Oracle games fit.. seeing as how if Link had obtained the full Triforce at the end of ALTTP And wished for everything evil that was done to be un-done. Then that would mean he wouldn’t only have the Triforce of Courage no? Or explain what happened between those games, but ok..
Aside from that, the wording has to be wrong that the Hero was ‘defeated’ He didn’t exist anymore, the Hero did not show up, thats why Ganondorf toppled Hyrule and the Imprisoning War began.
I spent a bit of time trying to graph this out and I’ve decided to post it to help other people understand how it really played out and why you do have 3 timelines. I took a bit of help from the video someone linked to and expanded on the concept of showing the events by a series of lines.
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp5/sciafb/zeldaTIMELINE.jpg
Look at that and you will get a better understanding how the event of pulling and replacing the master sword (traveling in time) and taking the lens of truth from the past and then returning to the ‘future’ creates a new ‘future’ for the rest of the game while the original future is now unreachable.
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Just as a question… Is there any confirmation of the Oracle order?
The phrasing seems to suggest Seasons fist, but it’s really not clear.
My only question is, in the timeline where Link is returned to the past before encountering Zelda, isn’t a Link supposed to exist already? where did he go?
I haven’t played all the games so maybe I’m missing something but for what I get there sould be two Links in that timeline, no? the one Zelda send and the one that was originally there
in what game does link get defeated by ganondorf
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I think most of the confusion stems from Link going back to being a child at the end of OoT. Zelda apparently sends him there so he can live out his lost childhood.
However, what good is to send Link to the same old past where he can not possibly defeat Ganondorf and has to live to see him take over Hyrule? What kind of childhood would that be? It would be much better to just let him live the happy future he forged with his own two hands even if that means skipping some years of his life.
This, I believe, means that Zelda sent Link to a totally new timeline in which the effects of Ganon being sealed away worked retroactively. In this new timeline Ganon has no place in history and would perhaps disappear from the time-space continuum, if it wasn’t because he has the Triforce of power with him. As such, his essence is banished to the point with least “resistance” in the fabric of reality: The Twilight Realm. From there, he’s only able to manipulate events in a way that will allow him to be reinserted in the timeline (by weakening the barrier between the Twilight Realm and Hyrule.)
The only thing that doesn’t really make much sense in this timeline is FSA, but I guess we really don’t know much about what exactly happened to Ganon after being defeated in TP. The only explanation that occurs to me (trying to fit the backstory provided in FSA) is that after 100 years in that timeline, the Gerudo gave birth to another male who was the incarnation of Ganon’s essence.
But Link isn’t sent back to his childhood for nothing, he and Zelda inform the King of Ganondorf’s evil plans, so that he can be imprisonned. I know it kind of bugs me that the king would listen to them now and not before, and that Ganondorf can kill everyone in one timeline and in another he can’t resist his arrest, but that’s what I got from this timeline and a few notes I found that people got from the book…
Wait. So ganondorf dies in majora’s mask – dead. And then in twilight princess he is sealed somehow, (Sealed AND dead? Why do they need to seal him up, he’s dead! Sealed away IN death, or something? Then how does he break free? Are the sages the only things keeping him dead? What?) and then at the end, no-one really knows if he’s alive or dead. Yeah, he looks dead, but he can only die to silver arrows when he has the triforce on him, right? And he had the triforce. so why does he need resurrecting in FSA?
@Zelda’s wife Uh? Where do you get that from what I said? Ganon doesn’t even appear in Majora’s Mask. As I said, I think that timeline is one devoid of Ganondorf because Zelda’s time travel shenanigans at the end of OoT. He’s neither alive or dead in a sense: he is banished from reality and ends in the Twilight Realm where he’s killed by Link at the end of TP.
Then (I wager) he reincarnated again as the legendary male Gerudo, stole the Trident, and set off to take over Hyrule in FSA.
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well… i don’t think I like this timeline (i worked really hard trying to piece together my own) but if it’s from nintendo (which it better be or someone is going to get some serious flaming) then i’ll accept it
This is really exciting! I wonder how will Nintendo explain this. By the way, here’s my interpretation of the 3-timeline splits:
http://www.slideshare.net/MartinTristanCarneo/the-legend-of-zelda
What do you think?
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